This week on the Film at Lincoln Center podcast, we’re featuring a conversation from the 58th New York Film Festival with filmmakers Matías Piñeiro and Nicolás Pereda.

In Matías Piñeiro’s Isabella and Nicolás Pereda’s Fauna, one never knows where performance ends and life begins. The two films meditate in poignant ways on storytelling as both an artistic and an everyday act: Isabella continues Piñeiro’s wryly quotidian takes on Shakespearean dramas, while Fauna unearths the violence haunting a Mexican village beneath a veneer of fabrications and arch comedy. In a sprawling conversation moderated by NYFF program advisor Gina Telaroli, the two filmmakers chatted about their shared affinities, inimitable idiosyncrasies, and respective approaches to collaboration, color, structure, and more.

Matías Piñeiro’s Isabella opens in our theaters on August 27, with special Q&As with Piñeiro at the 6:30pm screenings on 8/27 and 8/28. Click here for showtimes and tickets and watch the official trailer.

Listen to the discussion on the films below and don’t forget to subscribe on iTunes, Spotify, or Stitcher for more filmmaker conversations.